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Weather Observations
29.0 F (-1.7 C)

Wind is
West at 6.9 MPH (6 KT)
Humidity:
63%
Pressure:
1018.4mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Fair
Location:
KNYC
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 7:51 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 09:58 AM

Yesterday, Invest.94L was designated in the southwest Atlantic. Over the past 6 hours, it has tracked to the west-southwest (258°) to 25.3N 78.7W. Its current intensity rating is 1.0.

Unfortunately, based on a combination of the model guidance and historic tropical climatology, this system has high probability of threatening U.S. landfall and will likely reach at least tropical storm strength at some point. Hurricane strength is possible.

Most of the models take this system across Florida or Georgia. A few recurve it. However, the evolving synoptic situation tends to argue against recurvature for this system. In an extreme case, it could try to escape before being pulled back toward the United States ala Hurricane Dawn (1972). Given its current motion, I don't believe that scenario will play out.

Historic climatology--going back to 1940 for a somewhat larger sample--reveals that 4/5 (80%) tropical cyclones that developed in the 23.3N-27.3N/76.7W-80.7W region eventually made U.S. landfall. There is some chance that this system could well track across Florida into the Gulf of Mexico. Both the BAMS and GFDL have a particularly disturbing track.

For now, I believe:

• Invest.94L will likely threaten U.S. landfall
• Invest.94L should become a tropical storm at some point
• Invest.94L could eventually attain hurricane strength
• There is a chance that Invest.94L could move into the GOM and eventually threaten a portion of the Gulf Coast.

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Weather Observations
28.0 F (-2.2 C)

Wind is
from the Northwest at 19.6 gusting to 28.8 MPH (17 gusting to 25 KT)
Humidity:
88%
Pressure:
1007.3mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Overcast
Location:
KFVE
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 7:53 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 09:59 AM

I like this format of forecasting.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:09 AM

the situation grows more alarming by the minute

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:10 AM

It leaves me short of breath even the mere consideration of it. Don, I do like the format you used for this post too. Very good and as always the content of your post is excellent.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:15 AM

How long before this becomes headline news?

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Weather Observations
23.9 F (-4.5 C)

Wind is
From the West at 3.0 MPH Gusting to 5.0 MPH
Humidity:
76%
Pressure:
1019.2mb
Visibility:
mile(s)
Conditions:
N/A
Location:
WU-KPAEASTO7
Updated:
February 9, 8:16 AM EST

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:20 AM

nutmegfriar, on Sep 5 2005, 11:15 AM, said:

How long before this becomes headline news?
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When's JB's next time on FOX News?

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Weather Observations
25.0 F (-3.9 C)

Wind is
West at 5.8 MPH (5 KT)
Humidity:
75%
Pressure:
1017.7mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
A Few Clouds
Location:
KISP
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 7:56 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:20 AM

Id much rather this come up towards the Carolinas.

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Weather Observations
37.0 F (2.8 C)

Wind is
North at 5.8 MPH (5 KT)
Humidity:
79%
Pressure:
1017.0mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Overcast
Location:
KGSP
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 7:53 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:21 AM

saying the GFDL track of this Invest is disturbing is an understatement

is makes me sick to know how well the GFDL did with the last storm... and now what its trying to do for this on

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:31 AM

Unfortunately, the ensemble mean sfc and 500 pattern argue for a track across fl into the gulf. The gfdl is very bullish on the system and tracks it towards la. It's still to early to start calling for a la/ms landfall but the pattern certainlly looks favorable for another gulf storm.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:35 AM

Can this end up tracking further west, to say, TX? Would be cruel irony if a storm headed towards the evacuees of the last.

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Weather Observations
16.0 F (-8.9 C)

Wind is
Calm
Humidity:
84%
Pressure:
1020.9mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Partly Cloudy
Location:
kbwi
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 6:54 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:36 AM

If this becomes a hurricane and does head for NO, which I certainly pray it doesn.t how soon does the nhc pick up on this and warn those in its way? If the gfdl is correct, something got to be done for them in New orleans. My lord, another hit would be too much? What are the circumstances for it comming up the coast? I am too much of an amateur to know much about this, but don is so good and his post outstanding. The pattern just seems to be repeating no matter where the storm forms.Why is this happening? This has been discussed in other threads. I am asking questions. The east coast seems to be in a vacum. Anyones ideas??

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Weather Observations
17.0 F (-8.3 C)

Wind is
Southwest at 6.9 MPH (6 KT)
Humidity:
77%
Pressure:
1020.1mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Fair
Location:
KABE
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 7:51 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:40 AM

I cannot even fathom what it'd be like if another hurricane made landfall in LA/MS/AL..

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Weather Observations
37.0 F (2.8 C)

Wind is
North at 5.8 MPH (5 KT)
Humidity:
79%
Pressure:
1017.0mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Overcast
Location:
KGSP
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 7:53 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:43 AM

ConnMan, on Sep 5 2005, 11:35 AM, said:

Can this end up tracking further west, to say, TX?  Would be cruel irony if a storm headed towards the evacuees of the last.
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ASTRODOME here we come :axesmiley:

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Weather Observations
20.5 F (-6.4 C)

Wind is
From the South at 1.0 MPH Gusting to 10.0 MPH
Humidity:
62%
Pressure:
1014.1mb
Visibility:
mile(s)
Conditions:
N/A
Location:
WU-KCTSTERL1
Updated:
February 9, 8:16 AM EST

Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:44 AM

WX4caster88, on Sep 5 2005, 10:43 AM, said:

ASTRODOME here we come  :axesmiley:
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WX4caster88, on Sep 5 2005, 11:43 AM, said:

ASTRODOME here we come  :axesmiley:
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That ens mean looks like it might go further west, maybe I'm reading wrong. Katrina was initially expected to hit the panhandle, and kept trucking west. Though, the location of this storm would make a more northerly component have a much quicker/easterly landfall.

I suppose it's too early to really think about a landfall point. This season says it will be a N GOM storm, somewhere between NO and Pensacola.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 10:59 AM

I know it's still a long way from happening, but imagine another 10 inches of rain in New Orleans. Wow.

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Weather Observations
51.4 F (10.8 C)

Wind is
Calm
Humidity:
98%
Pressure:
1013.1mb
Visibility:
mile(s)
Conditions:
N/A
Location:
WU-KFLTHEVI7
Updated:
February 9, 8:15 AM EST

Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:22 AM

donsutherland1, on Sep 5 2005, 10:58 AM, said:

Most of the models take this system across Florida or Georgia.  A few recurve it.  However, the evolving synoptic situation tends to argue against recurvature for this system.  In an extreme case, it could try to escape before being pulled back toward the United States ala Hurricane Dawn (1972). Given its current motion, I don't believe that scenario will play out.

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:23 AM

Don nice post.. It will be interesting to see if the Models start trending more West with Time..

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Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:26 AM

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Ginger.. that kind of track with this system would make JB need a Elephant tranquilizer.

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Weather Observations
20.0 F (-6.7 C)

Wind is
West at 5.8 MPH (5 KT)
Humidity:
71%
Pressure:
1021.4mb
Visibility:
10.00 mile(s)
Conditions:
Fair
Location:
KRDG
Updated:
Feb 9 2010, 6:54 am EST

Data Source: NWS

Posted 05 September 2005 - 11:48 AM

Thanks for the update Don. Appears there is uncertainty in the future strength of that tropical feature, but certainly looks to be a pest this week as climatology favors it will be impacting the US.

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