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#1 User is offline   nhamblin26 


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Posted 29 March 2005 - 09:21 AM

Don't put those canoes away just yet in the Northeast, looks like another decent shot of rain will be upon the places that just got hit later Friday and early Saturday. Impressive slow moving trof will close off and go negative tilt as it swings through the Northeast. The SFC reflection will probably slow down and allow for some sort of training of convective cells across a certain area. It is possible that some 3 inch or higher totals will come out of this one too. We'll have to watch dry slot for the interior. It may keep amounts down a bit. This should all but eliminate whatever remains of SNE snowpack. I wouldn't be surprised to see this end as snow across NNE late Saturday night, but that won't be the big story with this system. Looks like there could be some strong SE winds ahead of the system. There is still 3-4 days until this happens, so there is alot that can go wrong (or right) with this.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 09:32 AM

nhamblin26, on Mar 29 2005, 09:21 AM, said:

  This should all but eliminate whatever remains of SNE snowpack.  4 days until this happens, so there is alot that can go wrong (or right) with this.
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The SNE snowpack is basically non existant , yesterday's rains and this weeks mild temps have promoted rapid melt in the south. There are pockets in the woods but basically kaput. NNE however is a horse of a different color. I drove from Bethel Maine to Southern RI on Saturday. Western Maine has an exceptional ripe snowpack with up to 12" of water ready to release. Week long melting, high dewpoints and a potential 2" storm could lead to big big problems up there. By the way, guess I picked the right week to ski as the conditions were the best ever with temps in the lower 30's ,40's with full sun all week. I am sunburned, beat up, and sore, but after 5 days of getting in 60 runs a day I never felt so good.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 09:37 AM

Ginx,

You definitely picked a great week to do that. You definitely pay for all that great skiing with sunburn and exhaustion. But hey, if you like skiing, you think nothing of it!

I agree about the points regarding the NNE snowpack too. Temps and dewpoints will be significantly warmer across NE than with this last storm, so there stands a bit of potential that should be watched.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 10:50 AM

Ginx snewx, on Mar 29 2005, 09:32 AM, said:

The SNE snowpack is basically non existant , yesterday's rains and this weeks mild temps have promoted rapid melt in the south. There are pockets in the woods but basically kaput. NNE however is a horse of a different color. I drove from Bethel Maine to Southern RI on Saturday. Western Maine has an exceptional ripe snowpack with up to 12" of water ready to release. Week long melting, high dewpoints and a potential 2" storm could lead to big big problems up there. By the way, guess I picked the right week to ski as the conditions were the best ever with temps in the lower 30's ,40's with full sun all week. I am sunburned, beat up, and sore, but after 5 days of getting in 60 runs a day I never felt so good.
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I was up in North Reading on Sunday and was shocked at how much snow was still on the ground (since we have nothing here). In shady areas there was still a solid 6" on the ground (I don't mean from piles, either). Lots of bodies of water still completely frozen. I would imagine interior eastern Mass and Central Mass could be at risk from all kinds of flooding, including help from ice dams.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:06 AM

hooralph, on Mar 29 2005, 10:50 AM, said:

I was up in North Reading on Sunday and was shocked at how much snow was still on the ground (since we have nothing here). In shady areas there was still a solid 6" on the ground (I don't mean from piles, either). Lots of bodies of water still completely frozen. I would imagine interior eastern Mass and Central Mass could be at risk from all kinds of flooding, including help from ice dams.
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SNE Snow depths this AM
8 AM EDT Hydrologic observations
Station 24 hour temps present snow
precip cur max min weather depth new
ending 8 AM

Western Massachusetts...
Including Franklin...Hampshire...Hampden Counties
Greenfield
Sunderland 2.16 lt rain 0.0
Orange 1.30 39 39 33 mdt rain
Worthington 2.37 41 41 30 mdt rain 8 0.0
Amherst 1.76 38 38 33 lt rain 3
Barnes airport 2.07 41 41 33 mdt rain

Central Massachusetts
including Worcester County
Ashburnham
Birch Hill Dam 34 41 28 mdt rain 3
Tully Lake 1.99 38 39 31 past rn shwr 8
Fitchburg 2.26 41 41 33 mdt rain
Barre Falls Dam 2.02 40 41 33 lt rain
Worcester 1.93 40 40 32 lt rain
Northbridge 42 cloudy
East Brimfield Lk 2.01 41 41 34 cloudy

Northeast Massachusetts
including Middlesex...Essex...Norfolk...Suffolk Counties
Hanscom field 2.23 41 41 35 cloudy
Bedford
Natick 1.84 39 42 36 cloudy
Beverly airport 2.26 40 42 36 cloudy
Lawrence airport 2.37 41 41 36 lt rain
Lowell cntr 2.47 38 40 34 mdt rain 0
Newburyport 2.43 38 39 34 lt rain
Blue Hill obs 2.37 38 41 36
Boston 1.70 41 43 38 cloudy
Norwood airport 2.25 41 44 37 cloudy
Walpole 2.46 40 43 38 cloudy
West Medway

Southeast Massachusetts
including Bristol...Plymouth...Barnstable...Dukes...Nantucket
Counties
Foxboro 2.94 39 42 37 cloudy
Bridgewater 3.12 38 40 35 cloudy
Norton 2 NE
Taunton 2.46 42 56 37 light fog
New Bedford 2.08 42 53 38 light fog
Plymouth 2.69 40 54 38 light fog
Falmouth 2.22 41 light fog
Hyannis 1.68 39 51 39 fog
Chatham 1.32 43 49 41 fog
Martha'S Vineyard 1.67 46 51 42 fog
Nantucket Island 0.96 47 49 42 fog

Southwest New Hampshire
including Cheshire County
Marlow 1.81 37 38 32 cloudy 5 0.0
Walpole 1.62 36 37 30 cloudy 2
Surry Mountain 2.05 34 39 28 cloudy 1
Weare
Keene airport 2.76 39
Jaffrey airport 0.80 40 40 34 mdt rain

South Central New Hampshire
including Hillsborough county
Greenville 2.35 40 40 30 mdt rain 4 0.0
Milford 2.16 41 41 32 mdt int rain
macdowell Dam
Francestown 1.73 38 38 30 lt rain
Otter Brook 2.05 36 39 32 lt rain 4
Manchester airport 4.64 41 41 34 mdt rain

National Weather Service Taunton MA
907 AM EST Tue Mar 29 2005

8 AM EDT Hydrologic observations
Station 24 hour temps present snow
precip cur max min weather depth new
ending 8 AM

Connecticut...
Hartford County
Bakersville 2.07 40 42 33 Cloudy 3
Windsor Locks 2.05 42 42 34 lt rain
Hartford 2.02 43 43 36 cloudy
Southington 44 51 34 cloudy

Tolland County
Staffordville 1.75 40 41 35 cloudy

Windham County
Hampton 2.34 41 41 35 Cloudy
Mansfield Hollow Dam 2.05 42 42 36 partly cloudy 0 0.0
West Thompson Lk 40 40 34 cloudy 0 0.0
Willimantic 1.79 43 43 37 cloudy

Rhode Island...
Providence County
Woonsocket 2.95 42 42 38 Cloudy
north foster

Kent County
Warwick 3.42 41 50 37 Cloudy

Newport County
Newport 2.57 41 50 40 Light fog
Tiverton 2.88 42 54 38 light fog 0 0.0

Washington County
Westerly 2.18 43 51 41 Cloudy

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:07 AM

Well according to the latest model runs we here in SE PA could get upwords to near 2 or so inches of rain again. 06Z GFS has us in the training effect of storms and rain. Had a nice bout of storms lastnight and the radar didnt estimate the rainfall totals correctly around here in Delaware county near the airport.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:25 AM

:( I'm sure the models won't waffle much now that it is spring.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:29 AM

JUST OH CRAP FOR MAINE. Like the whole entire state will be above freezing and Heavy Rain. This looks majorly severe as far as flooding. From Maine down to Washington,DC.

Hope people have Flood insurance.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 02:57 PM

12z GFS and 12z NAM in pretty good agreement for yet another heavy rainfall event...and I just had a total of 2.29" of rain from the past event!

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 03:49 PM

We do NOT need another 2 inches plus rain event late this week in NE Virginia. We are already waterlogged here in Woodbridge with 2.3 inches from yesterday's storm besides another 2.5 inches a few days ago!!! If we get swamped with more heavy rain we may have to change our city's name from Woodbridge, to Rottenbridge, or even Sunkbridge for that matter!!

I am sick to death of rain!!! I want that Heat Ridge!! I want 100 degrees with sunshine and southwest winds for days and days on end!!

The NNE sure does not need a heavy rain event either, what with the ripe snowpack about to release 12 inches' worth of water plus ice dams to boot.

What the NNE needs is a nice, L-O-O-O-O-N-G, slow melt with temps in the 50s with NO RAIN until the snow pack has melted GRADUALLY and the soil has had time to dry out some, they DO NOT NEED a ton of heavy rain all at once on top of a super-ripe heavy snowpack. The NNE does not need a disaster. It's great to have plenty of water on hand for spring but this is ridiculous!!!

Isn't there already enough of that in Indonesia already with the latest quakes?

God please help the USA!!!!

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 05:49 PM

18z GFS

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 05:54 PM

Rubber duckie, you're the one!

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 07:01 PM

18z GFS much, much drier...I'm hoping that that verifies, because an additional 1.5"+ would really cause some problems. 1.25" or less we should be able to handle without any problems!

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:37 PM

0z GFS, slightly further east... actually tries to give SNE and NE some light to moderate backlash snow now, I'll believe it when it falls. ;)



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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:39 PM

SLIGHTLY further east?

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:42 PM

Hope the eastern trend continues. I think NE Virginia can handle about a quarter to half inch of rain late this week without too much flooding.

What I'd lvoe to see is highs at least in the upper 70s/mid 80s with no rain whatsoever through late April. It would be nice to have an unseasonable heat wave with a strong SE Ridge, highs in the 90s and lows in the upper 60s with mid 60s/mid 70s dewpoints and no rain until early May.

I'll take a drought over flooding. At least the drought does not sweep your car away and drown you, it only means you have to learn to conserve water and turn up the thermostat.

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Posted 29 March 2005 - 11:44 PM

I was talking about the slp low track depiction... it's not that different till around hour 102. qpf is well east, but that's not important to me at this point.

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Posted 30 March 2005 - 11:45 AM

12z ETA and GFS





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Posted 30 March 2005 - 09:02 PM

hooralph, on Mar 29 2005, 03:50 PM, said:

I was up in North Reading on Sunday and was shocked at how much snow was still on the ground (since we have nothing here). In shady areas there was still a solid 6" on the ground (I don't mean from piles, either). Lots of bodies of water still completely frozen. I would imagine interior eastern Mass and Central Mass could be at risk from all kinds of flooding, including help from ice dams.
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The burbs got a good dumping from that Saturday storm that gave us a few inches of slop. But I think alot has gone since Sunday given the rain and the way warmer temps away from the coast. BOS had a 49F high today, ORH 59F. The next gullywasher coming imminently should kill what's left in areas east of the Berks I would think.

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Posted 31 March 2005 - 12:22 AM

0z NAM & GFS.





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