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#1 HubbDave

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:13 PM

How many live in Burlington, VT?

ORH does ok

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:16 PM

View PostHubbDave, on 03 November 2010 - 05:13 PM, said:

How many live in Burlington, VT?

ORH does ok



BTV has 38,000 people, so they wouldn't make the cut.


Portland, ME has 63k so they are in the discussion.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:17 PM

View PostORH_wxman, on 03 November 2010 - 05:16 PM, said:

BTV has 38,000 people, so they wouldn't make the cut.


Portland, ME has 63k so they are in the discussion.

I'll take them out of the discussion. ORH > PWM

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:18 PM

View PostORH_wxman, on 03 November 2010 - 05:16 PM, said:

BTV has 38,000 people, so they wouldn't make the cut.


Portland, ME has 63k so they are in the discussion.



Portland, In many ways weather wise is like Boston, They wll get some larger storms but they have a lot more storms that changeover sleet/rain because of there proximity to the coast...

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:19 PM

Maybe MHT?

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:20 PM

View PostMaineJayhawk, on 03 November 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

I'll take them out of the discussion. ORH > PWM



I dunno, they average a bit more snow than ORH...though ORH probably holds onto it slightly better.

What do you find obviously better about the ORH winter climate compared to PWM?

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:20 PM

View PostDryslot, on 03 November 2010 - 05:18 PM, said:

Portland, In many ways weather wise is like Boston, They wll get some larger storms but they have a lot more storms that changeover sleet/rain because of there proximity to the coast...


Portland is much snowier than Boston...averages 70 to 80 inches per season...they have their thaws, and the winters have far greater variability with regards to snowfall than upstate, but it is a pretty wintery location.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:20 PM

This topic could dovetail quite nicely with the snowpack retention/big storm discussion.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:21 PM

View PostMaineJayhawk, on 03 November 2010 - 05:19 PM, said:

Maybe MHT?



I'd take both ORH and PWM over MHT I think.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:23 PM

50K is too low...so many cities

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:24 PM

Lowell when I lived there did pretty well in the mid 80s to early 90s, but they sit a bit low.
Fitchburg gets some snow but I think they are like 40K and a lot of the ocean type events seem to be east for them

Concord NH?

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:26 PM

View PostCapeCodWeather.Net, on 03 November 2010 - 05:23 PM, said:

50K is too low...so many cities

Most are in Boston metro area which tends to be rain/sleet. Or S CT where, well winter doesn't happen there.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:26 PM

 Elevation has to be thrown in if snowfall is weighed heavily.     500' ORH isn't that desirable, IMO.  However 1000' where it's more rare to live (within city limits) may be the best.    Parts of MHT are over 500' and it makes a significant difference compared to the airport at roughly 220'.

Portland same argument could be made.



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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:30 PM

View PostORH_wxman, on 03 November 2010 - 05:20 PM, said:

I dunno, they average a bit more snow than ORH...though ORH probably holds onto it slightly better.

What do you find obviously better about the ORH winter climate compared to PWM?

I'm thinking in terms of what Dryslot was saying ... lots of storms are rain-polluted. I did not know, though, that PWMs annual snowfall was greater than ORHs. Thought PWMs might be in the mid to upper 50s. I guess it might be a toss-up. (But if I could be inland a bit instead of camping on the tarmac, PWM for sure)

What's wrong with MHT?

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:32 PM

View PostHubbDave, on 03 November 2010 - 05:24 PM, said:

Lowell when I lived there did pretty well in the mid 80s to early 90s, but they sit a bit low.
Fitchburg gets some snow but I think they are like 40K and a lot of the ocean type events seem to be east for them

Concord NH?

Concord < 50k.

Plus, they average 4 days over 90F during DJF.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:35 PM

View PostMaineJayhawk, on 03 November 2010 - 05:30 PM, said:

I'm thinking in terms of what Dryslot was saying ... lots of storms are rain-polluted. I did not know, though, that PWMs annual snowfall was greater than ORHs. Thought PWMs might be in the mid to upper 50s. I guess it might be a toss-up. (But if I could be inland a bit instead of camping on the tarmac, PWM for sure)

What's wrong with MHT?



Nothing is particularly wrong with MHT...its a good spot overall, but I couldn't come up with a reason why its better than either PWM or ORH...maybe less rain polluted storms than PWM...but they are in a bit of local snow hole there which leads to them averaging several inches less than the others and also prevents them from usually scoring jackpots in big coastals.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:36 PM

View PostMaineJayhawk, on 03 November 2010 - 05:32 PM, said:

Concord < 50k.

Plus, they average 4 days over 90F during DJF.

Did not know they were that small. Looks bigger. I thought they only had 3 90+ days in winter

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:37 PM

View PostORH_wxman, on 03 November 2010 - 05:35 PM, said:

Nothing is particularly wrong with MHT...its a good spot overall, but I couldn't come up with a reason why its better than either PWM or ORH...maybe less rain polluted storms than PWM...but they are in a bit of local snow hole there which leads to them averaging several inches less than the others and also prevents them from usually scoring jackpots in big coastals.

I'd take PWM or ORH over MHT...def. relative snowhole.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:43 PM

Just found a site that lists the top 101 US cities w/ population over 50K with the highest snowfall. PWM ranks highest among New England cities (70.4"), ORH is second (67.2") and MHT is third (63.6").

These snowfall totals are open for debate, probably.

I'd take the inland locations. I'm a snowpack retention sort of guy.

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 05:51 PM

View PostMaineJayhawk, on 03 November 2010 - 05:43 PM, said:

Just found a site that lists the top 101 US cities w/ population over 50K with the highest snowfall. PWM ranks highest among New England cities (70.4"), ORH is second (67.2") and MHT is third (63.6").

These snowfall totals are open for debate, probably.

I'd take the inland locations. I'm a snowpack retention sort of guy.

Good find. Plus, doesn't Portland get good Nor'easters?





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