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#1 User is offline   BeauDodson 


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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:12 PM

I am wondering what areas receive more snow during the November-December time period? If you wanted to go live somewhere during part of the lake effect snow season which location is better?

Does the City (downtown area) of Oswego actually get that much lake effect snow - right on the lake or is it more inland? What about the Syracuse area?

Seems like those are the two cities that actually have some sort of population in that region. Otherwise, it appears to be a lot of rural areas - small towns.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:14 PM

View PostBeauDodson, on Nov 30 2008, 07:12 PM, said:

I am wondering what areas receive more snow during the November-December time period? If you wanted to go live somewhere during part of the lake effect snow season which location is better?

Does the City of Oswega actually get that much lake effect snow - right on the lake or is it more inland? What about the Syracuse area?

Seems like those are the two cities that actually have some sort of population in that region. Otherwise, it appears to be a lot of rural areas - small towns.


Both locations see decent amounts of LES (give Oswego an obvious edge), but if you really want to see LES, travel to Redfield, NY.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:16 PM

Nothing wrong with a small town.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:16 PM

Oswego normally gets more snow then Syracuse because of how the lake is shaped. Oswego can get a west wind and be in good shape while Syracuse would get nothing. Just depends on the wind direction.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:18 PM

View PostBeauDodson, on Nov 30 2008, 08:12 PM, said:

I am wondering what areas receive more snow during the November-December time period? If you wanted to go live somewhere during part of the lake effect snow season which location is better?

Does the City of Oswega actually get that much lake effect snow - right on the lake or is it more inland? What about the Syracuse area?

Seems like those are the two cities that actually have some sort of population in that region. Otherwise, it appears to be a lot of rural areas - small towns.



It's Oswego. But Fulton gets more snow and is a bigger city. It's located in south-central Oswego County.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:19 PM

View Postjonjon, on Nov 30 2008, 06:16 PM, said:

Nothing wrong with a small town.

No, not if you live there. :) But, to visit for a couple of months - that is the issue.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:19 PM

View PostOSUmetstud, on Nov 30 2008, 06:18 PM, said:

It's Oswego. But Fulton gets more snow and is a bigger city. It's located in south-central Oswego County.

I noticed Fulton...looked smaller. Didn't realize it was larger. Looks like most of these are in Oswego County.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:21 PM

View PostBeauDodson, on Nov 30 2008, 07:19 PM, said:

I noticed Fulton...looked smaller. Didn't realize it was larger. Looks like most of these are in Oswego County.


They have a walmart super center there now in Fulton...which is a big deal up here now....lol :arrowhead:

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:21 PM

Here's an article and some pictures from a 2004 Alumni Magazine. The campus is located on the water, about 1.5 miles west of downtown. This is an article about Lake Effect Storm Iron which dumped 54" there.

Oswego Alumni Article

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:23 PM

View PostOswego LE, on Nov 30 2008, 06:21 PM, said:

They have a walmart super center there now in Fulton...which is a big deal up here now....lol :arrowhead:

One stop shopping. ;)

Sent you a private message...as well.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:25 PM

View PostBeauDodson, on Nov 30 2008, 07:19 PM, said:

I noticed Fulton...looked smaller. Didn't realize it was larger. Looks like most of these are in Oswego County.


Another interesting note that you should know.

Syracuse, NY takes their snow measurements from Hancock Airport, which is about 5-10 miles north of the city. That 5-10 miles makes a big difference because while there are only flurries in the city, heavy LES falling at 1-2"/hour could be falling at the airport. Happens frequently, which inflates Syracuse's snow totals.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:28 PM

View PostStotaRattler, on Nov 30 2008, 07:25 PM, said:

Another interesting note that you should know.

Syracuse, NY takes their snow measurements from Hancock Airport, which is about 5-10 miles north of the city. That 5-10 miles makes a big difference because while there are only flurries in the city, heavy LES falling at 1-2"/hour could be falling at the airport. Happens frequently, which inflates Syracuse's snow totals.


Ding ding ding! I contest that the City of Syracuse receives on average MAYBE 100-110" per season, but it goes in the books as 123" or whatever it is because of Hancock Field's location. It's like being listed in the Media Guide as 6'0", when you're really 5'11" 1/4".

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:31 PM

View PostStotaRattler, on Nov 30 2008, 08:25 PM, said:

Another interesting note that you should know.

Syracuse, NY takes their snow measurements from Hancock Airport, which is about 5-10 miles north of the city. That 5-10 miles makes a big difference because while there are only flurries in the city, heavy LES falling at 1-2"/hour could be falling at the airport. Happens frequently, which inflates Syracuse's snow totals.


Yep, and actually they have the opposite problem in Rochester. They have a 103" average at the airport but its located on the southwest side of the city. If it were located closer to Webster or something they would get more snow. For Buffalo, the airport is in Cheektowaga (97") which gets more snow than downtown Buffalo does.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:33 PM

A few miles make a huge differance around here. The northern burbs of Onondaga County (N. Syr, Cicero) do much better than the city of Syracuse. Also, snow for Syracuse is measured at the airport, which is north of the city.

And, ofcourse, with the snow up on the tug, it often makes it feel that our snow down here is piddily. The tug can get a band that generates a foot in a few hours. I can have a band sit over my house for 24 hours to pick up a foot. Mind you, I'm not complaining:) But, I did need to pick up a liittle place on the Tug cause the snow in the'Cuse just would not cut it for me.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:39 PM

Looks like those last 3 posts were all made at the same time all with the same message. Matt, I would go so far as to venture that the City proper gets less than 100". Maybe we should give back a bunch of those Golden Snowballs to Rochester or Buffalo. I'm trying to remember when they switched the snow measurements from downtown to the airport - 1985ish?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:43 PM

Last year, Oswego got 2 events I remember that were pretty big with LE. I believe one was in Jan, and the other in Feb.

Thats when the DOT in Fultons roof caved in.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:45 PM

View Postdanno, on Nov 30 2008, 08:39 PM, said:

Looks like those last 3 posts were all made at the same time all with the same message. Matt, I would go so far as to venture that the City proper gets less than 100". Maybe we should give back a bunch of those Golden Snowballs to Rochester or Buffalo. I'm trying to remember when they switched the snow measurements from downtown to the airport - 1985ish?


Ehh..yeah but downtown Buffalo only averages about 80" so that wouldn't necessarily benefit there either. I just checked the snow stats, and it appears that areas closer to Lake Ontario in Rochester proper don't average more than the Airport. The airport probably catches some Lake Erie bands more readily, making up for the loss of Lake Ontario. The 103" at Rochester could give the city of Syracuse a run for its money though.

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:46 PM

Syracuse Makes out decent Either way....:)

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:49 PM

I guess Jan and Feb are better LES months than Nov/Dec?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:57 PM

View PostBeauDodson, on Nov 30 2008, 08:49 PM, said:

I guess Jan and Feb are better LES months than Nov/Dec?



January is the best. December and November are toss ups. It depends on the season.

Buffalo-Dec 10, 1995-37.6"
Buffalo-Dec 24-28, 2001-81.6"
N. Redfield-Feb 3-12, 2006-141"

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