[WintersGrasp]

I'm curious....I know that Redfield, NY located in the Tug Hill Plateau receives incredible amounts of snow. I've researched it and it seems that they, of the towns that actually have weather stations, receive the most snow on average (though of course it varies bigtime in lake effect snow events). However, north and northeast of Redfield is where the higher elevations of the Tug Hill are located....Areas like Gomer Hill, Harrisburg and Hooker. It seems there is only one road going through the area (Salmon River Rd, I believe) How much more snow do you think these areas receive ? At some point, I'm thinking of moving into an area around Redfield (most likely not somewhere more isolated....as that'd be just a bit much, as Redfield itself has a population of barely 500 I think).....I've been researching this for a while and it all is very interesting

[StotaRattler]

WintersGrasp, on Nov 9 2008, 05:33 PM, said:

I'm curious....I know that Redfield, NY located in the Tug Hill Plateau receives incredible amounts of snow. I've researched it and it seems that they, of the towns that actually have weather stations, receive the most snow on average (though of course it varies bigtime in lake effect snow events). However, north and northeast of Redfield is where the higher elevations of the Tug Hill are located....Areas like Gomer Hill, Harrisburg and Hooker. It seems there is only one road going through the area (Salmon River Rd, I believe) How much more snow do you think these areas receive ? At some point, I'm thinking of moving into an area around Redfield (most likely not somewhere more isolated....as that'd be just a bit much, as Redfield itself has a population of barely 500 I think).....I've been researching this for a while and it all is very interesting

About the same for the most part. The real dividing line is between Williamstown and Redfield. Although Williamstown receives a hefty amount of snow, all you have to do is travel north on Route 17 to see the amazing difference between the two locations.

[Lake Effect King]

WintersGrasp, on Nov 9 2008, 05:33 PM, said:

I'm curious....I know that Redfield, NY located in the Tug Hill Plateau receives incredible amounts of snow. I've researched it and it seems that they, of the towns that actually have weather stations, receive the most snow on average (though of course it varies bigtime in lake effect snow events). However, north and northeast of Redfield is where the higher elevations of the Tug Hill are located....Areas like Gomer Hill, Harrisburg and Hooker. It seems there is only one road going through the area (Salmon River Rd, I believe) How much more snow do you think these areas receive ? At some point, I'm thinking of moving into an area around Redfield (most likely not somewhere more isolated....as that'd be just a bit much, as Redfield itself has a population of barely 500 I think).....I've been researching this for a while and it all is very interesting

As you head north of Redfield, you gradually head out of the "sweet spot"....but not by much....going north of Montague and the snow totals really start to diminish quickly.

It really is year to year variability, as to who ends up with the jackpots for any given season. Somewhere within the quadrangle of Barnes Corners, Montague, Lee Center and Williamstown ends up with the yearly jackpot, 99% of the years.....

[LES_CHASER007]

Seriously thinking about taking a ride up towards Redfield tomorrow to take some photos!!

[WintersGrasp]

I wonder how depressing it gets though living in an area with the only other inhabitants being animals :)

[PhineasC]

That whole area is very depressed economically.

They get a lot of snow, but the lack of infrastructure would make it less desirable than some other locations, IMO.

[danno]

I'm heading up to camp (between Orwell and Redfield) tomorrow for a couple of days and will take pics if there is anything white. Wintersgasp - if I can do it, you can too:) I'm originally from NE Essex County as well. Believe me, Redfield is rural. All here talk about Redfield for the snow - which ofcourse I love as well. But the area is gorgeous year around. Redfield sits on the eastern edge of the Salmon River Reservoir. The Res. is about 8 miles long and dotted with islands. Unlike many reservoirs in NJ, power boating, swimming, skiing, sailing, fishing are all permitted. Absolutely beautiful in summer. Also, only about 15 miles east of lake ontario and 45 minutes from the Thousand Island - which speak for themselves.

There are a few dirt roads that travel through the Tug, but they are seasonal. I'm also pretty confident that Osceola gets more snow than Redfield. It's about 5 miles due east of Redfield but quite a bit higher.

[WEATHER53]

When we did the Feb 2007 chase we stopped at a place to eat and tried to slide a tube down the hill. I think that was Barnes Corner?

[CNYWeather.com]

LES_CHASER007, on Nov 9 2008, 06:04 PM, said:

Seriously thinking about taking a ride up towards Redfield tomorrow to take some photos!!

The 1st time I went through there on a return from Clarkson I was amazed.

Went through Redfield and all those other towns along County Highway 17
after a heavy snow and looked like most of the homes were empty for the winter.
People up there must disappear during winter.

That ride opened my eyes to real lake effect. Also, was up in Redfield once
the day after a 4' dump. Makes the LE down here look like flurries.

[danno]

Game On! - webcam is from Worth, close to Barns Corners and 20 minutes north of Redfield. Cam sits at about 1500'.

http://www.northernc...hernchateau.htm

[roady]

Here's some web cams from the north country of NY
NY Snowmobile webcams

[swva]

danno, on Nov 10 2008, 08:39 AM, said:

Game On! - webcam is from Worth, close to Barns Corners and 20 minutes north of Redfield. Cam sits at about 1500'.

http://www.northernc...hernchateau.htm

Doesn't look like it has shifted down our way yet..

[danno]

swva, on Nov 10 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

Doesn't look like it has shifted down our way yet..

Hey Robbie - figured I'd find you on this thread sooner or later ...

Looks like the players are just coming together now. Band is supposed to shift toward us later today.

NYZ006>008-102145-
/O.CON.KBUF.LE.W.0010.000000T0000Z-081111T1100Z/
OSWEGO-JEFFERSON-LEWIS-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...OSWEGO...WATERTOWN...LOWVILLE
840 AM EST MON NOV 10 2008

...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
TUESDAY...

A LAKE EFFECT SNOW WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 6 AM EST
TUESDAY.

LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL BECOME STEADIER TODAY AND TONIGHT AS COLDER
AIR DEEPENS ACROSS THE AREA. EXPECT 3 TO 5 INCHES OF HEAVY WET
SNOW TODAY AND ANOTHER 3 TO 5 INCHES TONIGHT. STORMS TOTALS COULD
REACH A FOOT OVER THE TUG HILL PLATEAU.

[CNYWeather.com]

danno, on Nov 10 2008, 08:39 AM, said:

Game On! - webcam is from Worth, close to Barns Corners and 20 minutes north of Redfield. Cam sits at about 1500'.

http://www.northernc...hernchateau.htm

Nice and sunny in Rome :angry:

[Ottawa blizzard]

This is going to sound like a crazy question but how often does Interstate 81 get closed due to snowsqualls in the winter, particularly around Pulaski? I'll be heading down to Syracuse for a couple of days around the 21st (right around the time cold is forecast to move into the area!) and while I am hoping for some lake effect bands, I also don't want it to reach the stage of being life threatning!

[Ottawa blizzard]

swva, on Nov 10 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

Doesn't look like it has shifted down our way yet..

Is there a webcam for Watertown?

[Lake Effect King]

Ottawa blizzard, on Nov 10 2008, 10:37 AM, said:

This is going to sound like a crazy question but how often does Interstate 81 get closed due to snowsqualls in the winter, particularly around Pulaski? I'll be heading down to Syracuse for a couple of days around the 21st (right around the time cold is forecast to move into the area!) and while I am hoping for some lake effect bands, I also don't want it to reach the stage of being life threatning!

I'd guess 3-5 times per year you'll hear of I-81 closing for some short stretches and usually short timeframes, anywhere from Watertown to Syracuse. But it certainly doesn't close everytime it snows hard.....usually it has to either be snowing very hard for several hours, or it has to be blowing hard.....the road crews are top of the line out that way!! And they never shut down state Rte. 11, which pretty much parrallels I-81 for much of the snowbelt area.

[Ottawa blizzard]

Lake Effect King, on Nov 10 2008, 11:55 AM, said:

I'd guess 3-5 times per year you'll hear of I-81 closing for some short stretches and usually short timeframes, anywhere from Watertown to Syracuse. But it certainly doesn't close everytime it snows hard.....usually it has to either be snowing very hard for several hours, or it has to be blowing hard.....the road crews are top of the line out that way!! And they never shut down state Rte. 11, which pretty much parrallels I-81 for much of the snowbelt area.

Thanks for the info!

[CleetusSnow]

Get a snowmobile. No better way to get out to enjoy a snowfall. I go up there 3-5 times per year to ride.

[WEATHER53]

Lake Effect King, on Nov 10 2008, 10:55 AM, said:

I'd guess 3-5 times per year you'll hear of I-81 closing for some short stretches and usually short timeframes, anywhere from Watertown to Syracuse. But it certainly doesn't close everytime it snows hard.....usually it has to either be snowing very hard for several hours, or it has to be blowing hard.....the road crews are top of the line out that way!! And they never shut down state Rte. 11, which pretty much parrallels I-81 for much of the snowbelt area.

They shut I-81 down for us!!! we posted the pics here. Even closed the Cracker Barrell!!!