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Official long term midwest heavy rainfall/river flood thread 4/5 Greenville MS 2nd highest all time crest expected on MS river Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is online   janetjanet998 


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Posted 22 March 2008 - 11:27 AM

This thread will be the LONG term discussion result of all of these heavy rain systems and snowpack melt..each system individually will have its own thread but this thread will the accumulative result of those.

Also the big main stream river flooding threads will be discussed here (Mississippi, Illinois, Wabash and Ohio) since they crest well after each system has passed.

This thread will focus on WI, IA, IL, IN, OH, KY and MO...as well any flooding of the Mississippi downstream to the Gulf coast as the result of heavy rain in these areas.

Here are same articles and maps to get started

February wettest on record in Illinois

March 7, 2008The Associated Press


CHAMPAIGN -- The state climatologist says last month was the wettest February in Illinois since records started being kept in 1895. The 4.48 inches of precipitation Illinois received in February was 2.49 inches above average, according to Jim Angel of the Illinois State Water Survey in Champaign. February was colder than normal, too. The statewide average temperature for the month was 25.2 degrees , 5.2 degrees below average. Angel says wetter than average conditions in December and January -- plus February totals -- have made this the third wettest winter on record. The state received 11.32 inches of precipitation this winter.

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconn...TFEB_S1.article

Rianfall so far this year in IL and surrounding areas
http://www.sws.uiuc.edu/atmos/statecli/images/in/prcpytd3.gif



12z 3/22/08 GFS 60 Hr precip increments the next 15 days(active wet pattern continues)
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Posted 22 March 2008 - 12:09 PM

30.5Extensive flooding in East Mt. Carmel Indiana. The road through East Mount Carmel is impassable. Most structures in this area are elevated 2 to 3 feet above current flood waters. Vehicles must be parked on higher ground. 30.0Extensive flooding in progress on the northern outskirts of Mount Carmel and in western Gibson County Indiana with some evacuations needed
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/ahps2/hydrographs/mcri2_hg.png


42.0Many homes in the Cape Girardeau area are affecting and evacuation is required. Over 100,000 acres is flooded.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/ahps2/hydrographs/cpgm7_hg.png

PAH
47.0Major flooding occurs and property damage begins on the the Illinois and Kentucky sides of the river.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/ahps2/hydrographs/pahk2_hg.png


http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/ahps2/hydrographs/ciri2_hg.png




http://ahps.srh.noaa.gov/images/ahps2/hydrographs/memt1_hg.png

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 12:12 PM

when' the last time these areas saw flooding like this?

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 12:13 PM

View PostIan, on Mar 22 2008, 12:12 PM, said:

when' the last time these areas saw flooding like this?


1997 i think

keep in mind that these crests do not include any future precip after 24 hours

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 12:18 PM

The last few runs of the GFS give the flood stricken areas more than 7" of rain in the next two weeks!

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 12:23 PM

View Postjanetjanet998, on Mar 22 2008, 12:13 PM, said:

1997 i think

keep in mind that these crests do not include any future precip after 24 hours


on the mississippi, 2002 I believe,

the ohio river forecasts, 1997 last time for major flooding, although I'd have to confirm that with beau, and on the wabash in mt carmel, actually the last flood like that was in Jan of last year, but the record is from jan 2005 of 33.95'

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Posted 22 March 2008 - 07:26 PM

What makes this flood even more impressive, is the fact that in 1993 the flood took weeks to develop. This event happened in two days. Some of the areas that were hit hard in 1993 are seeing crests that are higher than that event.

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 11:54 AM

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
FLOOD WATCH
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LITTLE ROCK AR
1032 AM CDT SUN MAR 23 2008

...LOWER WHITE RIVER LEVELS TO EXCEED DECEMBER 1982 FLOOD
CREST FROM GEORGETOWN AND DOWNSTREAM...

ARZ033-034-046-047-057-241400-
/O.NEW.KLZK.FF.A.0002.080323T1532Z-080324T1700Z/
/00000.0.OT.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.OO/
ARKANSAS-MONROE-PRAIRIE-WHITE-WOODRUFF-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...AUGUSTA...BEEBE...BRINKLEY...
CLARENDON...COTTON PLANT...DE VALLS BLUFF...DE WITT...DES ARC...
EL PASO...GEORGETOWN...GILLETT...HAZEN...MCCRORY...ROSE BUD...
SEARCY...STUTTGART
1032 AM CDT SUN MAR 23 2008

..FLASH FLOOD WATCH IN EFFECT THROUGH MONDAY MORNING

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LITTLE ROCK HAS ISSUED A

* FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF CENTRAL ARKANSAS...EASTERN
ARKANSAS AND SOUTHEAST ARKANSAS...INCLUDING THE FOLLOWING
AREAS...IN CENTRAL ARKANSAS...PRAIRIE AND WHITE. IN EASTERN
ARKANSAS...MONROE AND WOODRUFF. IN SOUTHEAST ARKANSAS...
ARKANSAS.

* THROUGH MONDAY MORNING.

* THE RIVER STAGES ALONG THE LOWER WHITE RIVER ARE NOW FORECAST TO
EXCEED CRESTS EXPERIENCED DURING THE DECEMBER 1982 FLOOD AT
GEORGETOWN...DES ARC AND CLARENDON. WATER WILL RISE INTO AREAS
NOT FLOODED DURING THE 1982 FLOOD EVENT.


REMAIN ALERT TO THE POTENTIAL FOR RAPIDLY CHANGING CONDITIONS
ALONG THE LOWER WHITE RIVER AND TRIBUTARIES.

A FLASH FLOOD WATCH MEANS THAT CONDITIONS MAY DEVELOP THAT LEAD
TO FLASH FLOODING. FLASH FLOODING IS A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION.

YOU SHOULD MONITOR LATER FORECASTS AND BE PREPARED TO TAKE ACTION
SHOULD FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS BE ISSUED.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 05:47 AM

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 07:26 AM

View Postjanetjanet998, on Mar 24 2008, 06:47 AM, said:


Pretty impressive totals, considering that it's only out to the 29th.

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 01:42 PM

View Postjanetjanet998, on Mar 24 2008, 05:47 AM, said:



I along with beau will be posting from boats....

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 02:31 PM

View Postjhamps10, on Mar 24 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

I along with beau will be posting from boats....


Something like this?

http://www.livius.org/a/1/mesopotamia/ark.jpg

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Posted 24 March 2008 - 02:43 PM

View PostMottster, on Mar 24 2008, 02:31 PM, said:

Something like this?

http://www.livius.org/a/1/mesopotamia/ark.jpg


LOL!!!!! Although I don't think I'll need one that big, if this train of storm systems doesn't stop soon, we might...

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Posted 26 March 2008 - 12:47 PM

Lets hope this don't come to fruitition...

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod/analysis/namer/gfs/12/images/gfs_p60_156m.gif

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 04:10 PM

last 2 days of rainfall

another very wet event about 72 hours away



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Posted 29 March 2008 - 01:04 AM

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/2...ingoutlook.html


Current Major Flooding in U.S. a Sign of Things to Come
NOAA Urges Communities to Prepare During Flood Safety Awareness Week

March 20, 2008

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Major floods striking America’s heartland this week offer a preview of the spring seasonal outlook, according to NOAA’s National Weather Service. Several factors will contribute to above-average flood conditions, including record rainfall in some states and snow packs, which are melting and causing rivers and streams to crest over their banks. This week, more than 250 communities in a dozen states are experiencing flood conditions.

The science supporting NOAA’s short-term forecasts allows for a high level of certainty. National Weather Service forecasters highlighted potential for the current major flood event a week in advance and began working with emergency managers to prepare local communities for the impending danger.


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http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/i...s/floodmap2.jpg

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 08:34 AM

rainfall predeicted with the next system(another one beyond this starting at day 6)

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Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:11 AM

next system

yikes




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Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:12 AM


RECORD EVENT REPORT...CORRECTED FOR ADDITIONAL PRECIPITATION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ST LOUIS MO
1235 AM CDT TUE APR 1 2008

..RECORD MONTHLY RAINFALL RECORD SET AT ST. LOUIS FOR MARCH


8.39 INCHES OF RAINFALL HAS BEEN OBSERVED THIS MONTH AT ST. LOUIS
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT. THIS BREAKS THE OLD MARCH RAINFALL RECORD OF
8.25 INCHES SET BACK IN 1897.

BELOW IS THE TOP TEN RAINFALL RECORDS FOR THE MONTH OF MARCH.

1. 8.39 (2008)
2. 8.25 (1897)
3. 7.97 (1913)
4. 7.87 (1904)
5. 7.73 (1898)
6. 7.67 (1927)
7. 7.63 (1945)
8. 6.90 (1876)
9. 6.67 (1978)
10. 6.59 (1938)


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Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:17 AM

some year to date rainfall totals for the 1st 3 months of 2008

WI
MADISON 7.94 165% of normal
MILWAUKEE 8.50 140% of normal

IL
ROCKFORD 6.63 129% of normal
CHICAGO 8.09 134% of normal

PEORIA 9.21 154% of normal

MO
ST. LOUIS 14.97 187% of normal
COLUMBIA 11.63 163% of normal
KANSAS CITY 6.79 136% of normal
SPRINGFIELD 19.33 235% of normal

IN
INDIANAPOLIS 13.97 167% of normal
EVANSVILLE
22.28 216% of normal

KY
PADUCAH 17.89 153% of normal

OH
CINCINNATI 17.21 180% of normal
COLUMBUS 13.10 172% of normal


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